Dr. Rosie Redfield joins Joe, Kevin, and Toren to talk about NASA and the Shadow Biosphere, blinded scientists all over the place, extreme solutions to illegal parking, and one of our favorite sciencey shows goes terribly awry.
Music: “The Future Soon” by Jonathan Coulton
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- RRResearch – Rosie Redfield’s science blog
- Unit 731
- Ig Nobel Prize Winners 2011
- How Much Money You Need To Realistically Recreate The Scrooge McDuck ‘Gold Coin Swim’
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Not mentioned in the show but Ben Goldacre’s TED talk here is great and on-topic:
Very good episode! Pink hair!
Aaaawww man! I’ve listened to all of the episodes, and this is the first time you made me feel a bit horkish (it was the reattaching the amputated limbs that did me in). It reminded me of The Last King of Scotland (the movie) and Lives of the Monster Dogs (the book).
Oh, but there was a science blunder in Jurassic Park. They assumed all of the dinosaurs were female. But the amphibian DNA let them change sex and start re-creating in the park themselves.
You’re right, I forgot about that. Good call!
i’ve had this movie on my hard drive for a few years now, but haven’t made the effort to watch it. it sounds like it’s pretty gruesome and disturbing. it is about the japanese experiments and torture of the chinese.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093170/
You missed a great scientist when it comes to blunders – Thomas Midgley Jr. The same guy figured out how to use freon for cooling and to put led into gasoline. He has been described as have “had a greater impact on the environment than any other single organism in world history”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley,_Jr
It was on the list for this episode, but I think we’ll put it in the Pollution episode.
An addition to the ‘In the News’ segment:
There is the lab accident that happened at UCLA a couple of years ago (http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/21/local/la-me-ucla-lab-20120121) where an apparently under-trained lab technician set herself on fire while mishandling a pretty nasty chemical. Generally, lab accidents have treated strictly as such (accidents) so to have charges filed for willful neglect is a scary precedent for a lot of Investigators and Universities.
On the subject of U731, as a person who works with Y. pestis a part of me would love to see the results from their testing while the other part is horrified by that desire. By most accounts, the ‘evil science’ consisted of well controlled studies with important and meaningful results. Results sadly tainted by the deaths of innocents.
Sheldon Harris (http://www.amazon.com/Factories-Death-Japanese-Biological-American/dp/0415932149/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_c) makes a case that many of the records from the camps wound up US hands after the Japanese surrender and were used to enhance the our own Bio-warfare program (to prevent it’s use, of course).
Thanks for the podcast. It makes my time in the lab far more enjoyable.
I feel this episode didn’t have a very good, how can I put it… “rhythm”, perhaps? English as second language strikes again! Anyway, Dr. Redfield was a great guest, but I felt like the subjects didn’t flow quite as smoothly as in other “let’s talk about a bunch of horrible things” episodes.
Still, it was worth the time spent listening. Evil science never ceases to be fascinating– I mean, disgusting!
Thanks Holtzmann, for listening. We do enjoy constructive criticism!
Hey f*** you! I hadn’t seen the Fly yet.
I thought it was a little harsh to call that study about the speed of neutrinos a “science blunder”. Yes, they got it wrong, but they did lots of checking and then published asking lots of other people to check too. Nothing like the “cold fusion” stuff where they didn’t bother publishing anything other than a press release. To me it was just good science with results being regarded sceptically.
Anyhoo, I liked the ep anyway.
Another pop culture reference is the big blue dude in the Watchmen. That was more of an Occ Health & Safety blunder though, like getting run over by a forklift or something, I guess.
As a follow-up to this episode I would like to submit for your perusing, this recent-ish cock-up with the Mars Curiosity rover:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/la-me-mars-contaminate-20120910,0,4086200.story
…..ooops.
The fools! They’ve violated the Prime Directive!
One thing y’all did not mention about Unit 731 was Gen. MacArthur granted immunity to the Unit 731 scientists captured by the US in exchange for their research on biological warfare.